What if the success you're chasing isn't the thing that will set you free?

In this episode of The Healing + Human Potential Podcast, I sit down with entrepreneur, bestselling author, and BossBabe co-founder Natalie Ellis to explore what it really means to build a business without losing yourself in the process.

Natalie shares the inner work that transformed the way she approaches ambition, relationships, leadership, and success. Together, we unpack why so many entrepreneurs unknowingly self-abandon, how unresolved childhood patterns show up in business, and why true freedom comes from regulating your nervous system, not simply reaching the next milestone.

We also explore people-pleasing, resentment, boundaries, burnout vs. functional freeze, delegation, AI, building systems that create freedom, and why the most successful entrepreneurs learn to separate their identity from their outcomes.

If you've ever felt torn between building a meaningful business and protecting your peace, this conversation will help you redefine success from the inside out.